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I'm sorry, but everyone seems to have concluded the hero referred to in TP is the Hero of Time, despite the game never using that terminology, and won't hear a word against it. So you're throwing out evidence, ignoring problems in the timeline, and ignoring creator intent simply because you don't like the idea, despite the huge metaphysical headache merging timelines would do (going so far as to have made games never happen).
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It's just the idea of having two separate "universes" in the property that bothers me. Honestly, I wouldn't be so against a split if the two timelines reconverged at some point (like davo's waaaaay old Creation of the Dark World idea). So then if a Zelda creator who's shown interest in the story, and who's helped to actually clarify things, (yea, I know, TP's Triforce thing, but he's not responsible for that) makes a comment on the timeline, it's pretty hypocritical of you to just say "it doesn't count." We have about as much information on the timeline at large as we do on Megaman and Street Fighter as a whole. And I'm pretty sure that's the first time I've brought that up. Creator quotes being canon in those cases, I'll totally go for, mainly because there's very little story covered in the games themselves (especially Street Fighter), and the creators' comments really only cover stuff like who won which tournaments, who meets whom (Dan and Sagat, ect.), or what the flying hell the Zero Virus actually is. It's plot-heavy compared to Mega Man or Street Fighter. Consensus can exist, but if you're asking for EVERYONE to agree, then that's just foolishness. Well, aside from the placement of TMC, my timeline represents the current general consensus. True, but the point is, there are way more things to disagree about, meaning a consensus on pretty much anything, including what had a consensus way back when, has been rendered essentially impossible. And indeed, this forum has those sorts of morons.
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You'd have to be a complete moron (or completely unintroduced to Zelda) to not think Triforce. They didn't use the name, but they used every other cue to make you think "Triforce" without holding your hand. TP is ambiguous as shit regarding this stuff, yet they claim they're trying to clarify sutff? No sale. All I said was that I don't think the creators care as much as they claim to in interviews about clarifying the storyline. It's only "dumb" because you're misreading it. However, in a single timeline, this would break any timeloop you have going due to a changed future, and TWW, which requires the events of OOT's Adult Future, cannot happen.Īgain, I don't believe in a split timeline, and I don't believe that both games require no non-MM games to occur between them and OoT. Yea, so? Child Link presenting that information would change history, and would neatly lead into TP's backstory. It takes some stretching to fit, but again, nothing doesn't, and I'm not really going for anyone else's approval. What doesn't present problems? Kid Link presumaby retained his memories of the erased future, just as Marty McFly did, and probably used his story, and his possession of the ToC, as proof that he was the Hero of Time. It's currently one of the few absolute facts of timeline placement we have. It's debatable, and using all caps isn't going to change that. A split does have to exist, since TWW and TP can't coexist at all on a timeline. It's an irrelevant point though, as Zelda time travel isn't consistent across the board. It technically wasn't a perfect timeloop because it didn't involve the generation of information out of nowhere. I dont even think that it was made clear in WW that the hero statues were OoT.
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How wasn't it a time loop? It was present, you closed it by obtaining the song. I wanna see proof the of the split that isn't a creator quote, then I will believe.